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: it was founded to promote liberty and economic freedom, starting in san francisco, and then move into washington, d.c. milton friedman admitted the kindle institute has never sold out. we still work for liberty and freedom. i've been working with the cato institute since 1995 and full time since 2007. host: mary, fort washington, maryland. democrat. caller: i would suggest thinking that if you follow all of the problems come at the end of the trail you will find the smiling grin of greed. that is what i think caused it. for myself, naca program helped us, taking us out of the ugly arm. my mortgage is $964 a month, which will allow us to stay in our home comfortably. guest: people blame things like a financial crisis on greed, but greed is not changing. it has been with us for hundreds of thousands of years. people are greedy naturally. if we design institutions assuming people are altruistic, we will get hurt. we have to assume they are greedy, and if there altruistic, we will only benefit from that. we assume that people want to live in their own home, and give people a choice, buying or rentin
on the other coast, you're in san francisco. that had apiey oakland different feel. what is your view of the social movement? >> they were reactive. and fizzled away. i saw what happened in oakland with occupy. problem is that understood consensus to a fall. it became a degradation of the democratic [inaudible] and it could not come up with a mature way to deal with -- create discourse within their ranks so they could create a coherent set of ideals. to do that you have to concede there is such a thing as hierarchy and it is not necessarily picture " or -- patriarchal. you do not need a formal pecking order but you will get rules and order. burning man despite its size and location and is said to be very well-run. there are norms and laws on the ground. >> that is what we do. >> some of you might have been there. >> we build a temporary city in the desert. it has all the -- it is everything any normal city would provide. it last trade days. -- lasts for eight days. it is kind of radical but radical in both senses of that term. radical conventionally means pushing boundaries, going bey
institution in san francisco. should they be required to adjust to this new health plan? >> the compromise is a reasonable one. >> madame leader? >> yes. >> would you support that if it is part of the package? >> i want the middle class to get a break. i would hope we could get the middle income taxes cut. it is important for us not to think that the payroll tax holiday is a substitute for real relief for middle income families in our country. in the absence of other things, which might have to be considered, i had hoped that two years would be enough. unfortunately, republicans in congress have stood in the way of many of the job initiatives that the president put forward that would have accelerated the growth that we think is possible. some of it is coming into play. that might be something we have to consider. >> speaker boehner earlier described there being a stalemate. do you think that we will get a deal last minute? >> last-minute is the last day of the month. i do not think that is right. we know what is at stake. everyone knows that we have to have cuts, growth, and revenue. why a
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